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		<title>By: prepare to be shocked: PETA people are misogynists + stupid &#171; resistance is fertile</title>
		<link>http://lagusta.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/yet-another-radical-ecofeminist-vegan-against-peta/#comment-2554</link>
		<dc:creator>prepare to be shocked: PETA people are misogynists + stupid &#171; resistance is fertile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As you know, I CANNOT STAND Ingrid Newkirk. This made for many conversations in which I am the most polite and fake person you have ever met&#8211;the consummate business owner who is 100% business&#8212;kind in a closed-off sort of a way, answering her many many extremely idiotic questions in a cheery, vapid, detached monotone. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As you know, I CANNOT STAND Ingrid Newkirk. This made for many conversations in which I am the most polite and fake person you have ever met&#8211;the consummate business owner who is 100% business&#8212;kind in a closed-off sort of a way, answering her many many extremely idiotic questions in a cheery, vapid, detached monotone. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: awesome: vegans against peta blog (also: choco bunny love) &#171; resistance is fertile</title>
		<link>http://lagusta.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/yet-another-radical-ecofeminist-vegan-against-peta/#comment-1970</link>
		<dc:creator>awesome: vegans against peta blog (also: choco bunny love) &#171; resistance is fertile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8212; lagusta @ 3:42 am    Oh radical radical radical awesome radical! A whole blog devoted to my most favoritest subject: vegan PETA bashing! First Twisty is getting all Carol Adams&#8217;d out lately and now this! Good [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8212; lagusta @ 3:42 am    Oh radical radical radical awesome radical! A whole blog devoted to my most favoritest subject: vegan PETA bashing! First Twisty is getting all Carol Adams&#8217;d out lately and now this! Good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://lagusta.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/yet-another-radical-ecofeminist-vegan-against-peta/#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a vegan but I do not like PETA because I feel they go to illegal extremes. I finally decided I wanted nothing to do with them any more the day I was on their site watching videos and found one of a woman stripping and let&#039;s just say, she took off more than I thought she would. This is a site that many children look at. Although I am very much for animal rights, I am also very anti-porn. I was also bothered by all of the nude protesting and other sexual things they did to get attention. I would not want to go out in public with children for us to find all of these naked people out in public. I believe it is better to use your brains than your tits and that it is wrong to use sex to get what you want. Sex might sell, but so does casein. I also have a problem with their violence, terrorism and vandalism. Of course we vegans wouuld love to do some of those things but let&#039;s be real, it is giving us all a bad name. Being psycho about it will only push people away. How many times have you heard someone say, &quot;I went vegetarian three years ago when I heard PETA terrorized these people and got into the news. I checked it out and I decided to go vegetarian.&quot; ? I have never heard of it. I do not disagree with everything they do. I agree that people act like certain things were wrong when done to humans but okay to do to animals. As an example,  I thought it was hypocritical to be against slaves being whipped then taking their kids to the circus to see animals who live in cages being whipped and living in a life of servitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a vegan but I do not like PETA because I feel they go to illegal extremes. I finally decided I wanted nothing to do with them any more the day I was on their site watching videos and found one of a woman stripping and let&#8217;s just say, she took off more than I thought she would. This is a site that many children look at. Although I am very much for animal rights, I am also very anti-porn. I was also bothered by all of the nude protesting and other sexual things they did to get attention. I would not want to go out in public with children for us to find all of these naked people out in public. I believe it is better to use your brains than your tits and that it is wrong to use sex to get what you want. Sex might sell, but so does casein. I also have a problem with their violence, terrorism and vandalism. Of course we vegans wouuld love to do some of those things but let&#8217;s be real, it is giving us all a bad name. Being psycho about it will only push people away. How many times have you heard someone say, &#8220;I went vegetarian three years ago when I heard PETA terrorized these people and got into the news. I checked it out and I decided to go vegetarian.&#8221; ? I have never heard of it. I do not disagree with everything they do. I agree that people act like certain things were wrong when done to humans but okay to do to animals. As an example,  I thought it was hypocritical to be against slaves being whipped then taking their kids to the circus to see animals who live in cages being whipped and living in a life of servitude.</p>
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		<title>By: my mouth is no longer vegan: compromises, compromises &#171; resistance is fertile</title>
		<link>http://lagusta.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/yet-another-radical-ecofeminist-vegan-against-peta/#comment-1147</link>
		<dc:creator>my mouth is no longer vegan: compromises, compromises &#171; resistance is fertile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Even though I have visions of this incredibly sappy post ending up on some anti-peta blog (hey - I&#8217;m anti-peta too though!) and being mocked by hunters or something, I&#8217;ve decided to think of the tiny, tiny piece of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Even though I have visions of this incredibly sappy post ending up on some anti-peta blog (hey &#8211; I&#8217;m anti-peta too though!) and being mocked by hunters or something, I&#8217;ve decided to think of the tiny, tiny piece of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bullshit sandwich. &#171; Because it&#8217;s our prerogative</title>
		<link>http://lagusta.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/yet-another-radical-ecofeminist-vegan-against-peta/#comment-1010</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullshit sandwich. &#171; Because it&#8217;s our prerogative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bourdain says, but there are some total assholes out there that are ruining it for the rest of us and definitely chasing potential allies away. I&#8217;ll leave you all with this beautiful [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bourdain says, but there are some total assholes out there that are ruining it for the rest of us and definitely chasing potential allies away. I&#8217;ll leave you all with this beautiful [...]</p>
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		<title>By: vegansofcolor</title>
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		<dc:creator>vegansofcolor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They support breed-specific legislation, which is ridiculous. Also I&#039;ve seen lots of stupid quotes from PETA people (including but not limited, I suspect, to Ingrid Newkirk) about pit bulls that are just awful, much less diplomatic than that link -- I can&#039;t remember the exact quotes, but I recently read a couple of books by Ken Foster about dogs, &amp; he talks about PETA &amp; pit bulls in them (&amp; also on his &lt;a href=&quot;http://kenfoster.blogspot.com/2006/04/petas-puzzling-email-of-thanks-and-my.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt; -- he also links to &lt;a href=&quot;http://badrap-blog.blogspot.com/2007/12/lets-have-dog-party-pit-bulls-not.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;).

The slavery/Holocaust comparisons are part of what I&#039;m talking about, w/PETA alienating POCs. There&#039;s some discussion about that &lt;a href=&quot;http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/do-petas-race-based-tactics-work-or-just-alienate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; &amp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/more-on-groups-like-peta-race/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They support breed-specific legislation, which is ridiculous. Also I&#8217;ve seen lots of stupid quotes from PETA people (including but not limited, I suspect, to Ingrid Newkirk) about pit bulls that are just awful, much less diplomatic than that link &#8212; I can&#8217;t remember the exact quotes, but I recently read a couple of books by Ken Foster about dogs, &amp; he talks about PETA &amp; pit bulls in them (&amp; also on his <a href="http://kenfoster.blogspot.com/2006/04/petas-puzzling-email-of-thanks-and-my.html" rel="nofollow">blog</a> &#8212; he also links to <a href="http://badrap-blog.blogspot.com/2007/12/lets-have-dog-party-pit-bulls-not.html" rel="nofollow">this post</a>).</p>
<p>The slavery/Holocaust comparisons are part of what I&#8217;m talking about, w/PETA alienating POCs. There&#8217;s some discussion about that <a href="http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/do-petas-race-based-tactics-work-or-just-alienate/" rel="nofollow">here</a> &amp; <a href="http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/more-on-groups-like-peta-race/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: lagusta</title>
		<link>http://lagusta.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/yet-another-radical-ecofeminist-vegan-against-peta/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>lagusta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vegans of color (and vegans with no color), PETA is not against pit bulls! 
http://www.peta.org/about/hottopic007.asp

Though I personally like HSUS&#039;s position better:
http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/animal_fighting_the_final_round/dogfighting_fact_sheet/

I&#039;m not in favor of breeding bans, FYI.

Also, can you give some examples of PETA&#039;s unfriendliness to peeps of color? I&#039;d be interested. 

What do you think about comparing animals in factory farms to human slavery? Have you read The Dreaded Comparison? Pretty interesting stuff - the cruelty the human heart is capable of...
http://www.amazon.com/Dreaded-Comparison-Human-Animal-Slavery/dp/0962449334</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegans of color (and vegans with no color), PETA is not against pit bulls!<br />
<a href="http://www.peta.org/about/hottopic007.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.peta.org/about/hottopic007.asp</a></p>
<p>Though I personally like HSUS&#8217;s position better:<br />
<a href="http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/animal_fighting_the_final_round/dogfighting_fact_sheet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hsus.org/hsus_field/animal_fighting_the_final_round/dogfighting_fact_sheet/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not in favor of breeding bans, FYI.</p>
<p>Also, can you give some examples of PETA&#8217;s unfriendliness to peeps of color? I&#8217;d be interested. </p>
<p>What do you think about comparing animals in factory farms to human slavery? Have you read The Dreaded Comparison? Pretty interesting stuff &#8211; the cruelty the human heart is capable of&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dreaded-Comparison-Human-Animal-Slavery/dp/0962449334" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Dreaded-Comparison-Human-Animal-Slavery/dp/0962449334</a></p>
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		<title>By: vegansofcolor</title>
		<link>http://lagusta.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/yet-another-radical-ecofeminist-vegan-against-peta/#comment-947</link>
		<dc:creator>vegansofcolor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PETA is also pretty terrible on race, too. I really hate when people argue that PETA being so out there &amp; media-grabby means that at least people talk about the issues they raise! B/c, augh, if they alienate half the people who hear about what PETA does, does that help animals?

(Also, I hate PETA&#039;s stance on shelter animals &amp; also on pit bulls.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETA is also pretty terrible on race, too. I really hate when people argue that PETA being so out there &amp; media-grabby means that at least people talk about the issues they raise! B/c, augh, if they alienate half the people who hear about what PETA does, does that help animals?</p>
<p>(Also, I hate PETA&#8217;s stance on shelter animals &amp; also on pit bulls.)</p>
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		<title>By: jenny s.</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenny s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/vinylcafe_20080301_4426.mp3

if you love cats and stories you will love this.</description>
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<p>if you love cats and stories you will love this.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>milkgonewild?  ugh ugh ugh.

i understand that without peta, i probably would not have been introduced to a/r or vegetarianism at the age i was (highschool&#039;ish).. but i really think, at this point in time, that they&#039;ve been surpassed in terms of their usefulness by groups like HSUS that are not a complete joke.  The whole idea that &quot;any media attention at any cost&quot; is positive seems silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>milkgonewild?  ugh ugh ugh.</p>
<p>i understand that without peta, i probably would not have been introduced to a/r or vegetarianism at the age i was (highschool&#8217;ish).. but i really think, at this point in time, that they&#8217;ve been surpassed in terms of their usefulness by groups like HSUS that are not a complete joke.  The whole idea that &#8220;any media attention at any cost&#8221; is positive seems silly.</p>
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